Sum'n To Say

We used to avoid Tyler, the Creator for how he'd lash out in homophobic and misogynistic anger. But in due time, anyone can learn how to process their emotions differently, to where grief can actually end with acceptance. We discuss how 'IGOR' reminds us of that fact. This episode was requested by Patreon supporter Jalen K. Wright. Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay Closing music by Slimm Leary

J. Cole, Cardi B and Drake interpolate his lyrics. Gucci Mane and 21 Savage wouldn't exist without him. But before that, Project Pat was an underground sensation setting the tone for Memphis hardcore rap. To understand the extent of his influence, we go back to where Pat's story begins: 1999's 'Ghetty Green.' Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay Closing music by Slimm Leary

Jah's list of all-time favorite records goes something like this: “Purple Rain.” “Thriller.” “Ain't Gon' Let Up.” We time-travel back to 2006, when DG Yola's self-help to steel drums (“Go get your brain a bath / Go to church”) went diamond in the streets. Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay Closing music by Slimm Leary

Back when Southern artists went platinum off a ringtone, and hip-hop's birthplace was notably absent from radio, Jay Z fired off "Death of Auto-Tune." We reflect on how this anticlimactic warfare forever changed how we view Hov as a business, *man,* T-Pain and noogies. Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay Closing music by Slimm Leary

What began as an overlooked Project Pat single reemerged in 2007 as the definitive hip-hop wedding song. We look back at how UGK, Three 6 Mafia and OutKast formed a perfect union with "Int'l Players Anthem" — as in, DJ Khaled should stay as far away from this as possible. Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/sumntosay Closing music by Slimm Leary

Crime Mob weren't adults when they arrived in the scene. They drowned in their tall tees. We revisit how, against all odds, this teen group came in the club, shaking their dreads, to create the soundtrack to your smoke with "Knuck If You Buck." Produced by Michael Saba: www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay Closing music by Slimm Leary

This is a Patreon-exclusive episode, but it's so good that we had to unlock it to share it with everyone. If you're interested in listening to more patron-only content like this, consider contributing to our Patreon crowdfunding page so we have the resources to keep delivering great content like this: https://www.patreon.com/sumntosay Twenty years ago Daniel Dumile slipped a Doctor Doom-inspired mask in the fight against the mainstream. We revisit MF Doom's debut album 'Operation Doomsday' (“The character is there, but he is still finding the voice and finding the flow,” says Yoh) and how, despite its limited release, its outsized impact on independent rap. Produced by Michael Saba: https://www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba

When Waka Flocka Flame said, “Drug dealing music / I influence,” he had no idea how right he'd be. We discuss how he and Lex Luger's straight brown liquor energy shook up the music industry ten years ago and can still be heard halfway across the world. Produced by Michael Saba: https://www.patreon.com/michaelsaba Closing music by Slimm Leary

Today Jermaine Dupri and Ludacris' smiling faces appear on a giant digital screen at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport to greet the 275,000 passengers flying in on a daily basis. This is the future these homegrown superstars first envisioned in their 2002 hit "Welcome to Atlanta." Plus, a detour through T.I.'s star turn in 'ATL.' Shoutout to new Patreon support Sharod Clerge. Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba Music by Slimm Leary

The term "scrub" wasn't always gender-specific. But in 1999, TLC, Kandi Burress and Tameka Cottle rewrote the definition to put the patriarchy on notice. Jah, Yoh and Christina revisit how "No Scrubs" alerted them to thirst buckets worldwide. Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba Music by Slimm Leary

You could call it a stroke of luck: how Soulja Boy invented clickbait when he had unsuspecting Limewire users downloading "Donk" instead of the latest Britney Spears single. But to quote Yoh, "Crank Dat"'s lasting impact on music, the industry grind and us all (YOU!) wasn't a joke. Thanks to our first Patreon supporters: Robbie McClellan, Sarah Lawrence and Jalen Wright Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba Music by Slimm Leary

Even Missy Elliott once feared the sophomore slump. We discuss how she answered to that fear 20 years ago: She watched The Matrix, called up Hype Williams and delivered a feminist manifesto called "She's a Bitch." Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba Music by Slimm Leary

The American Dream suggests that anyone here can achieve anything, as long as you work hard. Thanks to Lil Nas X, the American Dream could be summed up even more succinctly: Can't nobody tell me nothing. Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba Music by Slimm Leary

Once upon a time at Club Frequency, Jah used to always see this tall ass dude with long ass braids wearing an itty bitty shirt. The rapper previously known as Tity Boi has always been this larger-than-life presence. We revisit the moment where 2 Chainz had truly arrived: his feature on G.O.O.D. Music's "Mercy." Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba Music by Slimm Leary

We discuss the underexplored themes, jarring scenes and true-to-life horrors of this tinfoil hat thriller. (Of course there are spoilers.) Plus: Is 'Us' the 'Late Registration' of Jordan Peele's catalog? And how would your doppelgänger take you down? Production by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/c/michaelsaba Music by Slimm Leary

MS. KERI, BABY! joins us to celebrate the 10-year anniversary of her debut 'In a Perfect World.' She talks about balancing music with her Emory University studies, catching Timbaland's attention when he was actually considering retirement, and reckoning with how R&B has changed since "Turnin Me On." Feelings of "Intuition" by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Opening music by Slimm Leary

"Lollipop" wasn't the Lil Wayne that anyone knew when he recorded it on March 13, 2008. But it would be the Lil Wayne that took over the world. Yoh, Jah and Christina revisit how Weezy bet on himself to become the Auto-Tuned alien force whose DNA can still be found in rap and even rock (I'm sorry, Framing Hanley, for getting your name wrong). Lighter flicks by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Closing music by Slimm Leary

By 2003, Killer Mike had won Grammy without having an album out. This week we revisit how this "new school Ice Cube" answered to such high expectations with his debut 'Monster,' with all its Bizarre twists and Andre 3000-produced turns. Squeaky A.D.I.D.A.S. by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Closing music by Slimm Leary

In a world when even Ellen DeGeneres tries to twerk, we revisit the Billboard hit that turned mainstream America into azz folks, by Juvenile, Mannie Fresh and a prepubescent Lil Wayne. Dragnet suspense by Michael Saba: www.youtube.com/user/akhorahilis Intro music by Slimm Leary

The Sum'n To Say podcast consists of Christina, Jah, and Yoh. This week they celebrate the 15 year anniversary of the first time Dave Chappelle did a Lil Jon sketch on Chappelle's Show.