Tricky

In the second part of Tricky's deep-dive into the relationship between news publishers and tech platforms, Jezebel founding editor Anna Holmes joins Heather and Emily to talk about the glory days of blogs, the evolution of women's digital spaces (RIP Rookie), and what was lost when commenter culture moved to Facebook and Twitter. We also discuss the legacy of Gawker Media, what recent layoffs at digital publishers mean for the industry, and Anna's escape from the 24-hour news cycle as the editor of Topic, an online magazine that publishes once a month.