Tomorrow With Joshua Topolsky

Josh interviews Alex Garland, writer of 28 Days Later, The Beach, and Sunshine, about his directorial debut, Ex Machina. The conversation goes deep and weird, exploring ideas behind the film, NSA spying, and the meaning of human consciousness. Alex and Josh also debate the relative threat of world governments, discuss their love of post-apocalyptic games, and consider the construct of gender. It’s a doozy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices