Creating Wealth Real Estate Investing With Jason Hartman

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Survive and thrive in today's economy! With over 900 episodes produced, business and investment guru Jason Hartman interviews top-tier guests, bestselling authors and financial experts including; Steve Forbes (Freedom Manifesto), Tomas Sowell (Housing Boom and Bust), Noam Chomsky (Manufacturing Consent), Jenny Craig (Health & Fitness CEO), Jim Cramer (Mad Money), Harvey Mackay (Swim With The Sharks & Get Your Foot in the Door), Todd Akin (Former US Congressman), William D. Cohan ( The Price of Silence, The Last Tycoon, & House of Cards), G. Edward Griffin (The Creature from Jekyll Island), Daniel Pink (National Geographic).Jason Hartman is the Founder and CEO of Platinum Properties Investor Network, The Hartman Media Company, and The Jason Hartman Foundation. Starting with very little, Jason, while still in college at the age of 19, embarked on a career in real estate while brokering properties for clients, he was investing in he own portfolio along the way. Through creativity, persistence and hard work, he soon joined the ranks of the top one-percent of Realtors in the U.S. and in quick succession; earned a number of prestigious industry awards and became a young multi-millionaire.Jason purchased an Irvine, California real estate brokerage firm which he expanded dramatically and was later acquired by Coldwell Banker. He combined his dedication and business talents to become a successful entrepreneur, public speaker, author, and media personality. Over the years he developed his Complete Solution for Real Estate Investors where his innovative firm educates and assists investors in acquiring prudent investments nationwide for their portfolio. Jasons highly sought after educational events, speaking engagements, and his ultra-hot Creating Wealth Podcast inspire and empower hundreds of thousands of people in 26 countries worldwide.Additional guests featured on the Creating Wealth podcast include Robert Kiyosaki (RIch Dad Poor Dad), Matthew Quirk (The 500 & The Directive), Eve Wright (Life at the Speed of Passion), John Lawrence Allen (Make Wall Street Pay You Back), Jerry Robinson (Bankruptcy in Our Nation), Peter Zeihan (The Accidental Superpower), David Crowe (National Association of Homebuilders NAHB), Consuelo Mack (PBS - Wealth Track), Sean Haugh (Libertarian Candidate for the US Senate), Scott Paul (Alliance for American Manufacturing), Charles Goyette (Ron Paul's America Show), Chris Martenson (Crash Course), Matt Theriault (Epic Real Estate Investing), Christopher Barnatt (The Future of 3D Printing), Zac Bissonnette (Good Advice From Bad People), Rich Karlgaard (Forbes Magazine). Chris Mayer (Agora Financial), Craig R. Smith (The Great Withdrawal), Po Bronson (The Science of Winning & Losing), Jim Stossel (Why Government Fails), John McAfee (Founder of McAfee Anti-Virus Software) Harry Dent (The Great Depression Ahead), Kevin Armstrong (Bulls, Birdies, Bogeys, and Bears), Nick Bilton (Hatching Twitter), Tom Kreautler (The Money Pit), Doug Brunt (Ghosts of Manhattan), Catherine McBreen (Get Rich, Stay Rich, Pass it On), Les Leopold (How to Make a Million Dollars an Hour), Robert Greene (Mastery, Power, & Seduction), Byron Dorgan (Gridlock), Dennis Miller (Retirement Reboot), George Gilder (Knowledge & Power), Jed Kolko (Tulia), Dr. Judith Wright (The Soft Addiction Solution), Richard Duncan (The New Depression), Dave Krieger (Clouded Titles), Bill Ayers (Confessions of an American Dissident), Dr. H. Woody Block (American Gridlock), Steven Kotler (Abundance), Laurence Kotlikoff (The Clash of Generations), Greg Farrell (Crash of the Titans), Shaun Rein (The End of Cheap China), Ken Gronbach (The Age Curve), Amity Shlaes (The Forgotten Man), Roger Lowenstein (The End of Wall Street), Jay Elliot (The Steve Jobs Way), Richard Duncan (The Dollar Crisis & The Corruption of Capitalism), Robert Wiedemer (Aftershock), and Steve Slaunwhite (The Wealthy Freelancer).A trademark feature of Hartman Media podcasts are our 'Tenth Episodes' where alternative topics of interest are explored every tenth episode. This provides a diverse mix of programming exploring issues and influential authors like John Gray (Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus), Dan Millman (Way of the Peaceful Warrior), Dr. Denis Waitley (The Psychology of Winning, The Seeds of Greatness), Lori Ann LaRocco (Opportunity Knocking), Mark Divine (Seal Fit: Way of the SEAL), Dr. Jill Ammon-Wexler (The Power of Belief), Dr. Kelly McGonigal (The Willpower Instinct), Doug Conant (Touch Points), Jared Diamond (The World Until Yesterday), Dr. Bob Wright (The Science of Spectacular Living), Jack Canfield (Chicken Soup for the Successful Soul), Sonia Arrison (The Coming Age of Longevity), Dr. David Rock (Your Brain at Work), Gay Hendricks (Relationship Enhancement), Hannah Holmes (Quirk), Dr. Gary Chapman (The Five Love Languages), David Farrow (Millionaire Memory), and David Allen (Getting Things Done), Topics explored at depth on Creating Wealth include investing, income properties, property investing, investment strategies, loan modifications, market predictions, mortgage modi

Episodes

  • 2116: Unlocking Financial Success- A Guide to Building Wealth in Uncertain Times with Meet Kevin

    12/02/2024 Duration: 30min

    Jason shares insights on viewership statistics, comparing historical events like the Moon Landing and Richard Nixon's resignation speech to the Super Bowl, comparing viewership with the world's population growth. He emphasizes the importance of questioning statistics, urging listeners to consider context. He also discusses housing inventory trends, noting a significant decrease from pre-pandemic levels. Jason offers valuable perspectives on media consumption and real estate dynamics. Join the Empowered Investor cruise today. https://www.jasonhartman.com/ Today Jason welcomes YouTube influencer Kevin Paffrath a.k.a. Meet Kevin. In this interview with Kevin, conducted aboard his private jet, he shares insights on the economy, inflation, and investment strategies. Kevin discusses the aftermath of recent global events like the pandemic and geopolitical tensions, foreseeing prolonged economic effects. He emphasizes the importance of the Federal Reserve's intervention to prevent joblessness and advocates for a bala

  • 2115 FBF: Client Case Study, Clay Slocum - Power of Compounding, Asset Protection, Gen Y, Fannie Mae Appreciation Rates, Learning Taxation

    09/02/2024 Duration: 53min

    This Flashback Friday is from episode 892, published last Oct 4, 2017. Jason welcomes client, Clay Slocum to the show. Clay is a millennial who currently has four properties in his real estate portfolio. Before buying his first property, Clay worked diligently with his Investment Counselor, and a Local Market Specialist to play around with the numbers and he discovered his initial investment could grow exponentially. Clay shares his insights on the power of compounding interest, asset protection, and the Memphis market. Key Takeaways: 01:23 Jason comments on the Las Vegas terrorist attack. 09:56 Compound interest can be a powerful tool against inflation. 15:38 Engineers take an analytical approach to investing. 17:48 After 18 years, $100,000 grow to 14 million. 25:09 Jason explains a Deferred Sales Trust. 29:05 If you are on the fence about investing talk with an investment counselor. 39:59 Asset Protection is a complicated subject you should speak with a lawyer about. 49:24 Resources for tax help. Mentioned

  • 2114: From 0 to 6 Properties- The Inspiring Real Estate Journey of Curt Moe

    07/02/2024 Duration: 35min

    From Dallas, Texas, Jason discusses mortgage equity growth, emphasizing responsible lending and increased homeowner equity. He notes a significant rise in home values and stable mortgage underwriting standards post-Great Recession. Analyzing credit score trends, he highlights a decline in low-score mortgage originations, indicating a healthier market. Additionally, he attributes job growth to demographic shifts, foreseeing a prolonged labor shortage and sustained wage increases. Lastly, he promotes an upcoming investor cruise. Hartman's insights provide valuable perspectives on the real estate market and economic trends, fostering informed investment decisions. https://www.jasonhartman.com/ Then Jason and Curtis Moe discuss Curt's journey to wealth through real estate. Curt shares his experiences with self-management, property maintenance, and insurance claims. They also talked about the importance of discipline and strategic investment in real estate, emphasizing the idea of building wealth through base hits

  • 2113: Taxes Have Consequences and Why Income Property is the Most Tax-Favored Asset Class in America with Brian Domitrovic

    05/02/2024 Duration: 39min

    Jason Hartman introduces his new Apple Vision Pro goggles and discusses their incredible technology. He highlights the intuitive software, virtual keyboard, and compares it to the futuristic computing seen in the movie Minority Report. While expressing amazement at the technology, Hartman mentions the heavy weight of the goggles and his preference to wait for version 2. He then shifts to discussing the optimistic Fannie Mae prediction of mortgage rates dipping below 6%, foreseeing a significant increase in home sales and improved affordability. He also invites you to join the Empowered Investor Cruise and talks about the benefits of joining as a pro member. Go to https://www.jasonhartman.com/ today! Jason then welcomes Brian Domitrovic. Brian is associated with the Laffer organization, discusses the influential Laffer curve and its role in the Reagan revolution and supply-side economics. The Laffer curve illustrates the correlation between tax rates and revenues. Brian emphasizes its historical significance,

  • 2112 FBF: Your 5 Year Plan Contest, Buying $100 Per Month for 30 Years, and Multi-Dimensional Investments

    02/02/2024 Duration: 33min

    This Flashback Friday is from episode 904, published last November 1, 2017. Over the past few years, investment properties have become harder and harder to get a really good deal, but there are still solid investments available. You just have to be willing to shift your mindset away from what you could have gotten 5, 10, 15 years ago. You're being presented with the ability to have someone put $100+ in your bank account for the next 30 years, for the price of a down payment (around $20,000), not even taking into account all the other tax benefits you'll receive. Jason Hartman and Sara, his investment counselor, talk about what's going on in the investment property market, the importance of a long term plan, and why cash flow can ease concerns of high interest rates. Key Takeaways: 4:08 The relative scarcity of real estate is why values continue to go up (and will continue to) 8:02 The marketplace is the marketplace, and we must adjust our expectations in accordance with reality 9:57 How real estate investors

  • 2111: Socrates AI Model- Unveiling the May 7th Turning Point: Recession, Civil Unrest & International War Ahead? | Martin Armstrong

    31/01/2024 Duration: 38min

    Jason welcomes returning guest Martin Armstrong, an undiscovered economist known for his brilliance. He also discusses last year's unexpected real estate appreciation, debunking crash predictions. Jason emphasizes the multi-dimensional benefits of income property, contrasting it with misleading comparisons to stock market returns. Leveraging a $350,000 house with 6.6% appreciation, he illustrates a 33% return on investment with just a 20% down payment. He also promotes the upcoming Empowered Investor Cruise and Baselane, a banking platform for real estate investors. Overall, it explores economic insights and practical investment strategies. https://empoweredinvestorlive.com/ Jason welcomes back guest Martin Armstrong, a renowned economic forecaster. The conversation touches on Armstrong's background, experiences in the financial industry, and his computer-driven approach to analysis. Armstrong's economic confidence model predicts a peak on May 7th, signaling a shift towards a recession, civil unrest, and inte

  • 2110: Speed of Trust- Transforming Transactions into Relationships | Stephen M.R. Covey

    29/01/2024 Duration: 37min

    Today's 10th episode guest is Stephen M.R. Covey, son of the late Dr. Stephen Covey, known for "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People." They discuss Covey's book "The Speed of Trust," emphasizing the importance of trust in leadership. Jason also criticizes sensationalized predictions by financial gurus and questions why people don't sue them for missed opportunities. He promotes taking action and avoiding a spectator mentality in investing. The episode also previews the upcoming Empowered Investor Cruise with guest speakers Robert Helms, Scot Porier and more. https://empoweredinvestorlive.com/ Jason welcomes Stephen M.R. Covey as they discuss his book "The Speed of Trust." In business, cultivating trust is key for successful deals and relationships. The principle of "win-win or no deal" emphasizes fair collaboration, where both parties benefit. Trust fosters enduring relationships, enabling faster, more efficient cooperation. Smart trust involves assessing situations, clarifying expectations, and ensuring a

  • 2109 FBF: Client Case Study - David & Gina Nelson, Walking Your Way To Investing Success & JHU Live

    26/01/2024 Duration: 24min

    This Flashback Friday is from episode 854 published last July 10, 2017. In between activities during the Oklahoma City JHU Live event is a great time to record a podcast with new income property investors. David & Gina Nelson share their story of the life-changing decisions that led to investing in real estate with Jason. David & Gina recognized staying in their corporate positions and only investing in the stock market wouldn’t get them where they wanted to be in life. They convey their appreciation for the transparency and support they have received from the Jason Hartman Investment Counselors and share their advice on how you too can have the diversified financial future you deserve. Key Takeaways: 01:53 David & Gina wanted to take control of their lives and build their wealth by investing in income properties. 06:28 You are never too old or too young to start investing in your future and real estate. 09:46 The portfolio builder game is a great way to find out what type of investor you are. 12:

  • 2108: Generational Investing Secrets: Building a Legacy in Real Estate with Robert Helms

    24/01/2024 Duration: 46min

    In this episode, Jason features Robert Helms of the Real Estate Guys. He also discussed "generational investing" i.e. the possibility of children investing in real estate and the importance of not trying to time the market. Jason then moves on to discuss the impact of declining interest rates on the housing market, projecting that a drop to 5.5% could allow an additional 7.7 million people to afford a home loan. He highlights the benefits of owning a home and promoted Baselane, a banking platform designed for landlords. Then Jason welcomes Robert Helms as they discuss the real estate market's dynamics, including their merged mastermind groups forming The Collective Inner Circle. They delve into the current state of the market, highlighting constrained inventory and varying opinions on interest rates. Helms suggests a potential softening but cautions against waiting for ultra-low rates. The conversation explores the challenges of market timing and emphasizes understanding the asset's long-term value. Jason pre

  • 2107: Laffer Curve and Reaganomics, A Game-Changer in Global Economics | Dr. Arthur Laffer

    22/01/2024 Duration: 22min

    Discover the fascinating history behind the influential Laffer curve with the renowned economist #ArthurLaffer. This curve played a pivotal role in the Reagan revolution, transforming global economics. Dive into the concept that excess taxation can hinder government revenue, unraveling the counterintuitive nature of economics. Join the Empowered Investor Cruise for exclusive insights from experts and gain strategies for wealth building. Don't miss the chance to explore this captivating journey and register at https://empoweredinvestorlive.com/ And today's conversation is between Jason and Arthur Laffer which covers a range of topics related to taxation and economics. They begin by discussing Arthur's Laffer curve concept, which explores the relationship between tax rates and tax revenues. They also examine the impact of tax policies on different groups in society and the economy. The discussion then shifted to the effects of tax policies on property markets, using California's Prop 13 as an example. Finally,

  • 2106 FBF: Client Case Study in Atlanta, Kansas City, and Little Rock with Income Property Investor Philip

    19/01/2024 Duration: 41min

    Originally aired on CW 514 Jason reads a nice letter written by Gary who toured with Jason during the Memphis Property Tour. Jason introduces a long-time client, Philip to the show to talk about his real estate investment portfolio. Philip is unique because he started his real estate journey doing hard-money lending first and then purchasing income property. He talks on some of the mistakes and key lessons he has learned on today’s show. Key Takeaways: 0:00 Meet a long-time client, Philip Sullivan 2:32 Philip's Backstory  5:06 Getting Started with Lending In 2011 7:31 First Investment Property in 2012  9:45 Building a Portfolio 12:07 Growth in Atlanta Over the next few years 15:11 Expanding to New Markets 18:02 Philip reflects on the lessons he has learned from Jason over the years 19:29 Wrapping Up   Follow Jason on TWITTER, INSTAGRAM & LINKEDIN Twitter.com/JasonHartmanROI Instagram.com/jasonhartman1/ Linkedin.com/in/jasonhartmaninvestor/ Call our Investment Counselors at: 1-800-HARTMAN (US) or visit:

  • 2105: Exposing Truth About Gold, Silver and Real Estate- A Historical Race for Wealth

    17/01/2024 Duration: 37min

    Jason Hartman welcomes renowned gold expert Mike Maloney. Maloney, an author and speaker, shares insights on gold, inflation, and wealth preservation. Jason also discusses his strategy of inflation-induced debt destruction, using real estate and precious metals. He explores the challenges governments face in addressing economic issues, including unsustainable promises, high deficits, and potential solutions. He emphasizes the significance of understanding inflation and offers an opportunity to learn more about these concepts on his website JasonHartman.com. This show is sponsored by Baselane, offering real estate investors banking benefits and cashback rewards. http://baslane.com/jason Then Jason welcomes Mike Maloney. He talks about his book "The Great Gold and Silver Rush of the 20th Century," and presents a chart showing the price of a can of Campbell's soup under the gold standard from 1895 to 2025. Jason also introduced the Hartman Comparison Index and the concept of pricing items in commodities. Mike an

  • 2104: The Hidden Rental Boom: Why 2024 Is the Year for Property Investors!

    15/01/2024 Duration: 30min

    Jason examines the impact of interest rate hikes on the housing market and invites listeners to register for the upcoming 'Empowered Investor Live Cruise' event. https://EmpoweredInvestorLive.com/ Jason also finishes his talk with real estate expert Michael Zuber. https://OneRentalAtaTime.com/ In part 2, Michael predicts a potential shift in the real estate market, highlighting factors like increased mortgage rates and decreased affordability. He emphasizes a slowdown in transaction volume, making it easier to find motivated sellers. Zuber advocates for strategic real estate investment, focusing on opportunities created by market dynamics. The conversation delves into the impact on rentals, with a focus on the growing rental market due to declining homeownership rates. Michael also addresses challenges in the housing market, suggesting a prolonged period of broken affordability and the need for time to restore balance. #RealEstateWealth #PropertyInvesting #MarketInsights #MotivatedSellers #RealEstateStrategie

  • 2103 FBF: Winning The Tax Game with Inflation, Context vs Content, Peter Schiff & Joe Rogan, Client Case Study Andrew Baker, Minimum Wage vs Unemployment, Self-Management, Class A Properties

    12/01/2024 Duration: 01h08min

    This Flashback Friday is from episode 875 published last August 28, 2017. Drew Baker is back on the program to speak with Jason about topics that are essential to income property investors. Jason shares the core ideas behind his signature methods of Inflation-induced debt destruction and his ultimate investing equation. He also explains how the IRS’s tax code does not properly account for inflation and how it can benefit investors. There is an abundance of information in this podcast new and seasoned investors shouldn’t miss. Key Takeaways: 4:07 Jason announces the winner of the Amazon Echo contest. 5:08 Find out how to volunteer for the Short-Term Rental Advisory Board. 8:04 Peter Schiff and issues with minimum wage laws. 16:20 The difference between concept and context. 21:09 Governments create monopolies through regulations. 24:15 Client's answer the question "What advice would you give yourself in 2008"? 27:04 Direct investors notice the financial bumps more than investors in group investments. 34:04 Drew

  • 2102: 5x Your Real Estate Returns; Housing Market Insights from a 53-Year Spreadsheet Analysis

    10/01/2024 Duration: 32min

    Jason talks about the concept of shadow demand in the real estate market, emphasizing the strong demographic trends of household formation in the United States. He highlighted the issue of low housing inventory leading to rising rents and prices, and decreased affordability. He stressed the importance of considering the right comparison points when discussing housing affordability and promoted the "empowered investor cruise", a cruise event featuring education, networking, and fun. Jason also interviews Michael Zuber, author of 'One Rental at a Time', about the real estate financial market. They discussed Michael's philosophy of incremental progress in real estate investing and his recent move from California to Las Vegas. Michael emphasized data-driven decisions and presented a '53 year spreadsheet' to track real estate market data since 1970. They also discuss the impact of interest rates on the real estate market and made adjustments to a spreadsheet. Towards the end, they discuss the home price appreciati

  • 2101: Why Homeownership is Still a Strong Investment in 2024 | The Collective Inner Circle

    08/01/2024 Duration: 43min

    Jason discusses an article that features the real estate market's outlook for 2024. He predicts firm and growing home prices due to a lower number of home sales in 2023 and highlights the impact of the Federal Reserve's interest rate policy. Despite lower transaction volume, the desire for homeownership remains strong, driven by demographic factors and pent-up demand. The article suggests a potential increase in transaction volume, benefiting various real estate-related industries. Jason also  emphasizes the ongoing demographic shift and the significance of understanding supply and demand economics in navigating the market's dynamics.  Then Ken McElroy and the Real Estate guys talk about  combining their mastermind groups into one program called The Collective Inner Circle, consolidating resources for entrepreneurs and investors. The new program includes 5 in-person meetings, VIP access to conferences, online training programs, monthly interactive calls, a book study, and priority access to other events. Memb

  • 2100 FBF: Thank You & Colbie Caillat on Songwriting, American Idol Rejection & Touring Healthy

    05/01/2024 Duration: 35min

    This Flashback Friday is from episode 1000 published last May 14, 2018.  Today is a milestone episode, number 1000! A big thanks goes out to all the guests who have come on the show and all the client case studies who have come to share their real estate journey. The first half of the show is a thanks to them. The 10th episode for today is Jason Hartman talking with singer Colbie Caillat about how she managed to start her career using MySpace, as well as how she's handled rejection in her career, how she found her creative work process, dealing with rejection, and more. Key Takeaways: 5:02 Thank you to all the guests who've come on the show 10:02 A few listener soundbites from client case studies Colbie Caillat Interview: 15:41 Where did the idea to launch her career on MySpace come from? 18:37 The song writing process 23:55 Who was the song Capri written for 27:25 How Colbie stays healthy on tour 31:49 Dealing with professional rejection Website: www.JasonHartman.com/Events www.ColbieCaillat.com   Follow Ja

  • 2099: Insider Perspectives- Alex J. Pollock Unveils the Intricacies of Housing Markets, Predictions, and Central Bank Policies

    03/01/2024 Duration: 32min

    Jason talks about the resilient real estate market as the cost of money decreases and housing affordability improves. With mortgage rates dropping and the promise of increased affordability by the Fed, he anticipates significant price increases in the low-inventory market. Highlighting the 700,000-home deficit compared to normal inventory, Jason emphasizes the simple supply and demand dynamics driving potential price surges. He also urges viewers to consider the upcoming cruise for a unique learning and networking experience. Overall, the episode provides insights into the current real estate landscape, emphasizing the market's strength and predicting positive trends. Then Jason interviews Alex J. Pollock from the Mises Institute. The discussion revolves around the unpredictability of financial markets, particularly in contrast to more deterministic fields like astronomy. Pollock argues that economic and financial forecasts, even by prominent figures like central bankers, often prove inaccurate due to the int

  • 2098: What You Need to Know About the New Corporate Transparency Act, Fines and Jail Time

    01/01/2024 Duration: 24min

    In this episode, Jason Hartman discusses the Corporate Transparency Act, effective January 1, 2024. The act mandates companies doing business in the U.S. to report beneficial ownership information to the government to combat money laundering. Hartman emphasizes the exemptions, including securities issuers, government entities, banks, and more. He highlights the 57-page guide available for compliance, suggests seeking professional help, and warns of hefty penalties for non-compliance. The discussion touches on the complexities, potential loopholes, and challenges posed by the new law, urging listeners to stay informed and compliant with evolving legal requirements. https://www.fincen.gov/boi Download the PDF guide here https://www.fincen.gov/sites/default/files/shared/BOI_Small_Compliance_Guide.v1.1-FINAL.pdf If you need a referral to our attorney, go to https://www.jasonhartman.com/ and fill out any form.   #CorporateTransparencyAct #Compliance #BusinessLaws #MoneyLaundering Key Takeaways: 1:19 So many laws!

  • 2097 FBF: Creating Wealth Live with Jason on Inflation Induced Debt Destruction

    29/12/2023 Duration: 30min

    Today's Flashback Friday is from episode 843 published last June 14, 2017. Jason has left the most expensive city in the US, NYC, and is enjoying fly over state pricing once again. The meat of this episode is a recording of a Creating Wealth Live session which focuses on inflation. We all know inflation is right around the corner as it is the only way the government can get out of the current economic climate. Inflation will erode our purchasing power, our stocks, our savings and the rich will get richer. Investing in Income Property is your best weapon against the forthcoming inflationary increase. Key Takeaways: 3:07 Using a movie or Broadway play can get the attention of the political left. 6:42 Investors should align their interests with the government and the powers that be. 9:44 The Venture Alliance Mastermind in Chicago and the Oklahoma City JHU Live and Property Tour. Creating Wealth Live Clip 11:08 The 6 ways the government is likely to inflate themselves out of a mess. 13:20 Understanding inflation

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