Money Life With Chuck Jaffe Daily Podcast

Veteran technical analyst Adam Grimes of MarketLife says that the market "just doesn't look right or feel right" to keep rolling along. It's not the kind of market that can support a big move upward, and is more likely to spend the year range-bound, in a protracted "chop and flop." That doesn't mean Grimes is down on the market, because he says this could be "a healthy psychological reset;" as that reset happens, Grimes said he would cut back on active and aggressive moves and stay patient looking for declines that will represent buying opportunities. Susan Fahy, chief digital officer at VantageScore, discusses the firm's CreditGauge measure, which shows credit card balances and consumer delinquencies on the rise, although at modest levels; overall indebtedness declined, driven primarily by consumers paying down existing mortgage debt and not buying new homes. Plus,small-and mid-cap portfolio manager Lance Cannon of Hood River Capital Management returns to the Market Call, and Chuck answers a listener's quest

Bill Stone, chief investment officer at Glenview Trust, says that the stock market has priced in so much good news that it makes him want to be more cautious, looking into headline risks for potential value opportunities. Stone notes that the stock market has had previous periods with three strongly positive, consecutive years — and it could complete that process again this year — but it makes him nervous that the market could adjust and re-set. That's not pushing him out of stocks, but has muted his expectations. Charles Rotblut, editor at AAII Journal, discusses the organization's investor-sentiment survey, which shows that nervousness is on the rise, but so is bullish sentiment. Kyle Guske, investment analyst at New Constructs looks at large-cap value funds and finds an attractive pick this week — rather than looking for the standard Danger Zone trouble spot — noting that even in a category that is doing well, top potential performers stand out. Plus, author Ross White discusses his recent book, "The Tree

Legendary value manager Bill Nygren, chief investment officer at Harris Oakmark and co-manager of the Oakmark Fund, says "it's a pretty good time for investors, especially those who want to diversify away from the S&P 500 megacap technology risk," but he notes that investors who stick with the biggest stocks will find performance increasingly volatile and homogenous because the growth of the Magnificent Seven stocks has changed the way "large cap" gets defined, cutting the number of stocks that qualify in half over just a few years. "If you're a large-cap growth manager, you're either buying less growth, more mid-cap or you are accepting the fact that your portfolio isn't going to have much active share." Also on the show, Richard Stone, chief executive officer for The Association of Investment Companies discusses the similarities and differences in the closed-end fund industry between the U.S. and England, noting that activist investors have struggled to gain traction and acceptance in British boardroom

Tom Stringfellow, chief investment strategist at Argent Trust, said on Money Life last May that the market was having "Maalox moments," but the worries and concerns now make it a "Whac-a-Mole market." Despite that, he says the current conditions represent a return to normalcy, a new standard in which valuations may be permanently higher and stock prices keep rising so long as there is growth. As a result, his investment outlook is heavily centered on domestic stocks, which he thinks can deliver double-digit gains in 2025 for the third consecutive year. For his "ETF of the Week," Todd Rosenbluth, head of research at VettaFi, delves into the private credit market, something a growing number of investment analysts have been pushing but which few funds actually tackle. In the Market Call, Elliott Gue, editor of the Energy & Income Advisor, talks about income plays worth making now.

Michael Kelly, portfolio manager and global head of multi-asset for PineBridge Investments, says the market is like Star Trek, "going into a world where no one's been before," seeing new technologies like artificial intelligence become dominant, observing changes in geo-political lines and watching profits continue a trend of being high but going higher as the United States keeps getting stronger relative to the rest of the world. As a result, so long as growth continues, "the markets will come through ... so keep the seatbelt on and enjoy the ride." Author Tim Falconer discusses his new book, "Windfall: Viola MacMillan and Her Notorious Mining Scandal," reviving a tale of stock fraud from the 1960s that feels like a precursor to illegal actions seen in the markets today. Plus Jennifer White discusses J.D. Power research showing what banking and savings consumers are doing trying to get a handle on — and goose the financial performance of — accounts that seem stuck in neutral.

Jeff Rosenkranz fixed income portfolio manager at Shelton Capital Management — manager of the Shelton Tactical Credit Fund — says that what investors are facing more than sticky inflation and interest rates is sticky uncertainty. That doubt has increased volatility, especially in individual companies, industries and sectors as proposed tariffs play out, but that turbulence represents new opportunities for credit buyers, especially in intermediate term corporate and high-yield bonds. David Trainer of New Constructs puts Spotify back in the Danger Zone, noting that a recent pop in the company's stock price has inflated to the point where valuations reflect revenues so unrealistic that a 50 percent haircut in the stock would be considered mild. Plus, Ted Rossman discusses a Bankrate.com study which shows that more than 80 percent of Americans spend money on at least one of six common financial vices (alcohol, lottery tickets, casino games, tobacco/cigarettes/e-cigarettes, sports betting, and marijuana/recreation

Jim Welsh, author of "Macro Tides" and the "Weekly Technical Review," says the technical signals that have been evident since November — with the market making new highs while fewer stocks are advancing — are "a warning sign should a reason to sell appear, and I think we're going to get one of those." Welsh thinks that tariffs and the new administration's determination to use them will likely be that trigger; while he expects the market to make one more high in the short-term, he says that if tariffs have a harmful impact, the market is setting up a 10 to 15 percent pullback in the market later this year. Julia Hermann, global market strategist at New York Life Investments thinks the economy is strong enough to overcome all but an exogenous shock — something at the more severe end of Welsh's spectrum — without a recession, although her outlook remains for "a very bumpy market environment." Jim Baker, president of the Kayne Anderson Energy Infrastructure Fund, says that the energy infrastructure space — which

Whitney Tilson, editor at Stansberry Research, says that while there are reasons to be nervous, the market remains near record-high levels and is not showing signs that it is over-inflated and ready to burst. Tilson notes that fundamentals are strong and the U.S. has the best-performing economy in the world, so investors have correctly priced stocks at rich levels; while that makes it harder for Tilson — a value investor — to find great companies that the market has knocked down or mispriced, it doesn't make the market scary or mean that a big downturn is building. Todd Rosenbluth, head of research at VettaFi, pursues a big yield in an unusual place — the high-flyers of the NASDAQ — with his ETF of the Week, and Cullen Roche, chief investment officer for the Discipline Funds, talks about exchange-traded funds for the long haul in the Market Call.

Tim Urbanowicz, chief investment strategist for the Innovator ETFs, says that the stock market can keep running for as long as investor sentiment remains strong, but he notes that those emotions have been at such high level that there's not much room for a setback — which could be caused by tariffs, inflation and more — without cratering the market. As a result, he thinks investors need to take advantage of current conditions — even if they are nervous — but diligent about changes in the market. Author Ryan Matt Reynolds discusses his current book, "Undoing Urgency: Reclaim Your Time for the Things that Matter Most," and Jerry Sneed, senior wealth advisor at Procyon Partners, makes his debut in the Market Call talking about stock-picking and building a portfolio amid a strong market that's facing storm clouds.

Zach Jonson, senior portfolio manager at Stack Financial Management, says current valuations "really only fall in line with 1929 and 1999, so we see substantial downside risk" to the Standard & Poor's 500, but investors can avoid "historic ber market losses" in the mega-cap stocks that have lead the market for the last two years by rotating toward the value and lagging plays. He recommends equal-weight index plays rather than traditional cap-weighted plays, and being patient with the stocks that were unloved, which will have to overcome the shifting momentum of mega caps as the market cycle changes. His sentiments about a broadening market were seconded by Patrick O'Hare, chief market analyst at Briefing.com, who says that what's coming will be more of a stock-picker's market where investors are paid for being thoughtful and discerning amid a market that's likely to be stuck in a tight range as leadership changes and amid geopolitical uncertainty. Also on the show, Chuck Bell of Consumer Reports discusses

Economist Howard Yaruss, a professor at New York University and the author of "Understandable Economics," talks about how tariffs work and why increasing the levies now could lead to stagflation — higher prices with a worse economy — depending on how consumers and the Federal Reserve react. Yaruss isn't predicting recession yet, but he does see the economy becoming more sluggish as businesses deal with uncertainty around tariffs. David Trainer, founder and president at New Constructs, has a surprising pick — a Magnificent Seven stock — for The Danger Zone, and Brian Frank, manager of the Frank Value Fund talks absolute-value investing in The Market Call. Plus, Chuck has a heartfelt message near the end of the show that long-time listeners -- and newcomers too -- deserve to hear.

Lauren Saidel-Baker, economist at ITR Economics, says the "green shoots have been forming" among leading economic indicators, showing that growth is ahead for the economy, along with a normalization as the last ripples of the Covid-19 economy are finally playing out. She expects the Federal Reserve to struggle or fail in its efforts to hit a 2 percent inflation target and thinks consumers should get used to higher prices, but even if tariffs add to upward pressure she thinks the economy can avoid a recession. Christian Munafo, chief investment officer at Liberty Street Advisors — manager of the Private Shares Fund — talks about late-stage venture opportunities in artificial intelligence and the hunt for the next unicorn in the overheated AI space. Martin Leclerc, chief investment officer at Barrack Yard Advisors talks stocks in the Market Call, and Chuck discusses his sure bet for the Super Bowl, namely that companies which recently went public that advertise on the broadcast are headed for trouble.

Thomas Winmill, manager of the Midas Fund, discusses how uncertainties over tariffs, trade wars and geo-politics have help boost gold prices by more than 40 percent in the last year — and mining-company stocks by even more — and yet the current level of concern is going to help precious metals go even higher from here. He explains why the higher prices are a particular boon for the miners, making them the market sector he thinks has the most potential moving forward. Dan Brown, director of consumer product management at KeyBank talks about the firm's recent research which showed that Americans have levels of financial stress which may not be fully warranted, contradicting other studies — including ones discussed recently on the show — by showing that 45 percent of respondents are confident they could manage a $2,000 unexpected expense. Todd Rosenbluth, head of research at VettaFi, looks to the newest bond offering from the oldest mutual fund company — one of its first ventures into running exchange-traded fun

Charles Piller, author of "Doctored: Fraud, Arrogance and Tragedy in the Quest to Cure Alzheimers," discusses how research into one of the world's most devastating health scourges has been held back by the egos and profit motives of some of the leading researchers, and what they have done to keep their research in the spotlight even as more science shows that it might be leading to the wrong conclusions on how to combat the problem. Lindsay Theodore of T. Rowe Price talks about new research — and a planning guide created from it, that looks at life and long-term care planning for the second half of retirement, noting that for many people the golden years are two different stages that require separate financial focus to plan for correctly. Plus Dan Kim, director of research at Saturna Capital — manager of the Sextant International fund — brings his long-term focus to finding disruptive stocks to the Market Call.

Craig Callahan, chief executive officer at ICON Advisers, says the stock market is trading near its fair value, but that it has enough earnings momentum to push out an average year of gains — something in the range of 9 to 11 percent — and that it could do better if profits come in above expectation levels. He does anticipate more volatility, but figures the underlying value of stocks — especially those with quality management — should overcome headline risks. Mish Schneider, chief strategist at MarketGauge.com, says that market hysteria about headlines — and particularly some of those being created over the weekends while the stock market is closed — is creating opportunities, especially for volatility traders. Plus, in the Market Call, Matt Stucky, chief portfolio manager of equities for Northwestern Mutual Wealth Management, talks about being picky in selecting stocks that can thrive in current conditions.

Emily Roland, co-chief investment strategist at John Hancock Investment Management, says "the soft landing narrative right now is alive and well," but she is watching initial jobless claims and and high-yield bond spreads, both of which have been at levels showing continued economic strength and which aren't signalling any change in that trend. She does say that investors should temper expectations because the market sits at 22 times forward earnings, with the historic peak being 24 times; while that gives some room for more upside, it suggests that solid earnings and great balance sheets -- trading at reasonable prices -- will be essential for delivering positive results. David Trainer, president at New Constructs, puts Quantum Computing in "The Danger Zone,"   warning that a recent decline that cut the stock price in half didn't go nearly far enough given a lack of profits and a questionable business model. Craig Giventer, managing director of portfolio strategies for Focus Partners Wealth, talks about the

The show — like the stock market and economy — moves in a lot of directions today, with Ron Sanchez, chief investment officer at Fiduciary Trust Company International, saying that there's a "high degree of clarity around the economy," — a level of sustainability and durability that he thinks will last at least through 2026 —  balanced out by a host of policy and regime changes ahead that could impact monetary and fiscal policies, regulation, trades and tariffs and more. He thinks the uncertainty being played over a strong economic backdrop should ensure that the market avoids significant trouble. Jeffrey Bierman, founder of TheQuantGuy.com and chief market technician at TheoTrade, says the stock market is setting up for a "garden-variety, nothing-to-panic, maybe 10 percent corrective move in the market," but that once that is done stocks will consolidate and the market will start to climb higher again. Neither guest thinks big gains are likely in 2025, but both think that high single-digit gains are likely. A

Nanette Abuhoff Jacobson, global investments strategist for the Hartford Funds, is expecting a positive year for 2025, with a broadening market and solid earnings growth driving it forward, but she expects the drive to a third consecutive year of double-digit gains to be more volatile. That volatility represents an opportunity, she said, because fantastic companies become cheap when the markets get frothy but their underlying fundamentals don't change. Jacobson is leaning towards domestic stocks, but she noted that investors do not want to forsake international stocks, because they represent a good value at a point where domestic markets are pricey. Economist Lester Jones discusses the latest Business Outlook Survey from the National Association for Business Economics, which showed that economists think sales and profits are holding steady in current conditions, despite rising costs and increasing uncertainty over economic policy. Todd Rosenbluth, head of research at VettaFi, looks at a Bitcoin fund that uses

Mark Luschini, chief investment strategist for Janney Montgomery Scott, says that "the U.S. economy seems to be in pretty good shape," noting that there's a healthy amount of momentum — built on the strength of the labor market — that is creating solid underpinnings to will keep the economy and the stock market in a good place at least through 2025. Luschini thinks that earnings expectations — which he sees as a key for stocks continuing to post gains — are reasonable right now, though he does expect the market will be more volatile around news events, especially as it relates to earnings. Mark Hamrick, Washington bureau chief for Bankrate.com, looks at their latest "emergency savings report," which showed that just 41 percent of Americans would use their savings to pay for a major unexpected expense, like a $1,000 car repair or medical emergency treatment. In the Market Call, Ken Applegate, portfolio manager for the Wasatch International Growth and International Select funds, talks global small-cap investing

Steven Dover, chief market strategist for Franklin Templeton — the head of the Franklin Templeton Investment Institute — called the DeepSeek news that roiled the market over the weekend and into Monday "a Sputnik moment," comparing it to when the Russians stepped up the space race and the rest of the world responded. "If it's true that something is coming out that is much cheaper and easier for companies to use, that is going to incease the efficiency and productivity of the economy and help the broad market significantly," Dover said. He noted that the weekend's news — and the start of the new Trump Administration — have not shaken his outlook for 2025, when he sees low double-digit gains, a broadening of the stocks that are working and heightened volatility, but no recession. Tom McClellan, editor of The McClellan Market Report, talks about how he believes that liquidity concerns are being overlooked by investors now, but they have him fully short the market. He notes that "event risk" tends to be heightene